4 hours ago, obs said:Yes, they are collectors items. They wouldn't have designed the card backs the way they have if they were simply meant for kids. Plenty of people pay $15-17 for 5POA 3.75" figures. Reaction figs are this exact thing and they cost $18 each and were $15 before that, and the line somewhere between 300-400 figures (I think..I haven't taken an inventory in a while)and there are dozens more on the way or that have been announced. Just because a fig is 5POA doesn't mean it's not a collector oriented figure. There are hundreds of 5POA Star Wars figures at this point and many of those characters will never be turned into a 6" figure and will likely not get the SA TVC treatment either, so if you want the character then you have no choice but to get the 5POA version.
I personally think most of the 5POA SW figs are excellent and every bit as nice as the best of the TVC (and that style of SW fig). I don't take my figs off the card, so the articulation doesn't really matter for me, and there are plenty of figs that are either just as nice or nicer (from a sculpt POV) than the best of TVC. Even if I did take them off the card I wouldn't care about the articulation. I'm gong to display them on a shelf which means they're going to be standing in neutral stance/gait most likely, so it's irrelevant at that point. I'm also not going to be playing with them, so again the articulation means nothing to me. The only time I really tinker with them is when I first open something or if I'm showing it to someone, but after that I don't care. If I really wanted something that I'd want to pose or use in a diorama then I'll get the SA version if it exists..
Also, these Marvel retro figs are based on the old Secret Wars line from the 80s and/or just the older versions of the characters, so they aren't based on nothing as you say. I mean they're based on the character they represent. They don't need to be based on anything other than that. I'm 45, going on 80, so at the end of the day these are my versions of the characters, and I grew up and played with mostly 5POA, so 5POA feels right to me. I only recently warmed up to SA and 6" and 7" for that matter. My main centerpiece of my collection is 3.75" SW and Reaction and Reaction adjacent lines like Mezco 5 Points, Bif Bang Pow lines, and most of the various boutique indie lines like Dime Novel Legends (cowboys and 1800s figs/horses), the new Sectaurs from ZICA, Animal Warriors of the Kingdom! from Spero (which are some of the nicest figs I've ever owned), Boss Fight Studios' various 3.75" offerings, and those magnificent Task Force WWII soldiers from Marauders that RetroBlasting recently showcased (he loved them too). And while I don't care for the game, I absolutely love all three of the various Fortnite lines (3.75", 6", and 7"). Those are some of the coolest character designs and each scale offers something different. There's probably 60+ 3.75" figs now and growing, so yet another collector line in that scale. OK, this has gotten off topic, but I just say all this to show that there are people out there that collect 3.75" and that articulation doesn't matter for some of us. It's more about the presentation of the item as a whole and whether the sculpt/paint look good, and articulation can ugly up the nicest sculpt real fast sometimes.
Anyway, there are plenty of us that would spend $13+ for a measly 5POA figure over a 6" SA version. Marvel Legends are fine...I have plenty of them, but these new retro figures are a thing of beauty. Those card backs are the selling point, and they are right up any Reaction fan's alley. I'd pay much more than $13 for such a nice presentation. I have plenty of 3.75" figs that I paid a retail price of $35-50, and there are a few 5POA figs in there that I paid north of $100 for (Mezco 5 Points clear Space Ghost comes to mind...it's going for $350 on eBay right now but that's a pipe dream price). This new Marvel retro line will sell, and if they are really wanting to turn it into a regular line then they will if the sales are there, and based on my experience I think it's here to stay if they're serious about that. However, it's Hasbro we're talking about here, so who the heck really knows at the end of the day.
I think this marvel figures are based on the old comics... When I saw Ironman, immediately came my mind that old cartoon kind of newspaper animation of him which I like it for the seriousness of the characters... I can see made a lot of this comic characters like Namor that also used to have his own cartoon... 60's cartoons!
18 hours ago, JayC said:And no these aren't collectors items, why would they be???? They are 5POA figures based really on nothing. All this line really is going to do is piss off the MU collectors who have been wanting Hasbro to bring back articulated 3.75" figures. Hasbro's argument for killing that line was cost of them in today's market was not doable. No one would pay $15-$17 for a 3.75" figure when they could get a 6" one for $20. Even at $13+ my guess a lot of those MU guys are going be saying why would someone pay that much for a non-articulated figure and not a couple bucks more for an articulated one, which I would say is a legit question.
Yes, they are collectors items. They wouldn't have designed the card backs the way they have if they were simply meant for kids. Plenty of people pay $15-17 for 5POA 3.75" figures. Reaction figs are this exact thing and they cost $18 each and were $15 before that, and the line somewhere between 300-400 figures (I think..I haven't taken an inventory in a while)and there are dozens more on the way or that have been announced. Just because a fig is 5POA doesn't mean it's not a collector oriented figure. There are hundreds of 5POA Star Wars figures at this point and many of those characters will never be turned into a 6" figure and will likely not get the SA TVC treatment either, so if you want the character then you have no choice but to get the 5POA version.
I personally think most of the 5POA SW figs are excellent and every bit as nice as the best of the TVC (and that style of SW fig). I don't take my figs off the card, so the articulation doesn't really matter for me, and there are plenty of figs that are either just as nice or nicer (from a sculpt POV) than the best of TVC. Even if I did take them off the card I wouldn't care about the articulation. I'm gong to display them on a shelf which means they're going to be standing in neutral stance/gait most likely, so it's irrelevant at that point. I'm also not going to be playing with them, so again the articulation means nothing to me. The only time I really tinker with them is when I first open something or if I'm showing it to someone, but after that I don't care. If I really wanted something that I'd want to pose or use in a diorama then I'll get the SA version if it exists..
Also, these Marvel retro figs are based on the old Secret Wars line from the 80s and/or just the older versions of the characters, so they aren't based on nothing as you say. I mean they're based on the character they represent. They don't need to be based on anything other than that. I'm 45, going on 80, so at the end of the day these are my versions of the characters, and I grew up and played with mostly 5POA, so 5POA feels right to me. I only recently warmed up to SA and 6" and 7" for that matter. My main centerpiece of my collection is 3.75" SW and Reaction and Reaction adjacent lines like Mezco 5 Points, Bif Bang Pow lines, and most of the various boutique indie lines like Dime Novel Legends (cowboys and 1800s figs/horses), the new Sectaurs from ZICA, Animal Warriors of the Kingdom! from Spero (which are some of the nicest figs I've ever owned), Boss Fight Studios' various 3.75" offerings, and those magnificent Task Force WWII soldiers from Marauders that RetroBlasting recently showcased (he loved them too). And while I don't care for the game, I absolutely love all three of the various Fortnite lines (3.75", 6", and 7"). Those are some of the coolest character designs and each scale offers something different. There's probably 60+ 3.75" figs now and growing, so yet another collector line in that scale. OK, this has gotten off topic, but I just say all this to show that there are people out there that collect 3.75" and that articulation doesn't matter for some of us. It's more about the presentation of the item as a whole and whether the sculpt/paint look good, and articulation can ugly up the nicest sculpt real fast sometimes.
Anyway, there are plenty of us that would spend $13+ for a measly 5POA figure over a 6" SA version. Marvel Legends are fine...I have plenty of them, but these new retro figures are a thing of beauty. Those card backs are the selling point, and they are right up any Reaction fan's alley. I'd pay much more than $13 for such a nice presentation. I have plenty of 3.75" figs that I paid a retail price of $35-50, and there are a few 5POA figs in there that I paid north of $100 for (Mezco 5 Points clear Space Ghost comes to mind...it's going for $350 on eBay right now but that's a pipe dream price). This new Marvel retro line will sell, and if they are really wanting to turn it into a regular line then they will if the sales are there, and based on my experience I think it's here to stay if they're serious about that. However, it's Hasbro we're talking about here, so who the heck really knows at the end of the day.
Looks like they've opened it for everyone to watch live, not just US and Canada.
This whole idea of Exclusives going to pre-order is absolutely great! I hope Hasbro continues it. It gives everyone a chance to get the figure they want without being at SDCC (which most of us can't go to) and its still limited production to the time window. It also cuts down on scalpers and the insane prices on Ebay, which are ridiculous for some of this stuff.
I was signed on at 12 and it did take me some time but finally got the Hellfire set, which I was really looking forward to. I was so worried I would be shut out of the set that I was already thinking about Customizing ideas. Now I'll be happy to get the figures in march and order some Hellfire goons as well. (which I wouldn't have ordered if I didn't get the set)
However, I definitely would NOTpay $50 service for the privilege to buy figures. If that's what it takes for people to get their figures early, that's fine, I don't mind the wait.
The only thing I wanted was the Transformers pack. It let me put it in my cart, then it told me it was sold out.
1 hour ago, Goldbug said:yet Hiya did sell DC 1/18th figures for $19.99 & still sell others
Well to be fair, in pretty limited numbers, and the Hiya figures I have handled were not very durable.
5 hours ago, JayC said:And no these aren't collectors items, why would they be???? They are 5POA figures based really on nothing. All this line really is going to do is piss off the MU collectors who have been wanting Hasbro to bring back articulated 3.75" figures. Hasbro's argument for killing that line was cost of them in today's market was not doable. No one would pay $15-$17 for a 3.75" figure when they could get a 6" one for $20. Even at $13+ my guess a lot of those MU guys are going be saying why would someone pay that much for a non-articulated figure and not a couple bucks more for an articulated one, which I would say is a legit question.
yet Hiya did sell DC 1/18th figures for $19.99 & still sell others
18 minutes ago, Roadpigmaster said:Yeah it was an very nice process... Too bad it was only one item per figure... I was thinking in getting two Quintessons Pit... Also saw they have on their store the Quintessons figure stand alone but when I checked it was sold out...
I haven't tried it but I've heard if you go back in after the first purchase it doesn't actually prevent you from buying something a second time.
21 minutes ago, JayC said:Yeah once they went to pre-orders things went pretty smoothly.
Yeah it was an very nice process... Too bad it was only one item per figure... I was thinking in getting two Quintessons Pit... Also saw they have on their store the Quintessons figure stand alone but when I checked it was sold out...
17 minutes ago, Roadpigmaster said:Today I was able to make my pre orders for the Transformers Quintessons Pit set and the GI Joe Supreme Cobra Commander...
I went almost at 1:00pm while working and the process was fast...
Yeah once they went to pre-orders things went pretty smoothly.
