If they can redeem that Mass-Murdering Trash Hal Jordan (I don't forgive him, but the rest of the world seems blinded to it), then why can't Superboy Prime?
This is Geoff Johns we're talking about.
If Superman said, "we can't stop him. He'll just keep coming back, again and again so we have to kill him," we'd all be talking about how Superman could never say that let alone do that. So for him to say he have to redeem him really isn't out of character for Superman.True, he would never say it like that, but he could imply it without saying it. Like, "We have to do whatever has to be done, and we'll do whatever it takes to do it."How could he be redeemed? Take him back to when he became evil and stop it from happening altogether. You could kill him before he helped Superman-2 stop the Anti-Montior. You could stop him from killing the Titans and Superboy, helping him to see the error of his ways.Going back in time and stopping him before he turns evil isn't redemption. It's post-prevention, and a cheap, clichd gimmick.Superman saying, "we'll do whatever it takes" is almost a Wolverine thing. Superman sees the world in stark black and white so that would mean for him going to the inevitable conclusion which is not something he would ever do.
Sure going back in time to prevent the future is a cliche but it can be done in inventive ways. Remember when Batman and John Stewart saved the world in JLU when they stuck the nerdy timetraveler in a loop where he was stuck with his shrew of a wife? That was a good use time travel to prevent an evil act.
hahah yeah it was but it was such a non-superhero ending. They didn't beat him up they just kind of popped him in a time portal. Compared to real life that is the action equivalent of making a sandwich. If they have to take down Prime I hope they do it in a more exciting way. Not to throw sand on that ending but its kind of anti-climatic.
True, there was not intergalatic style fight at the end, but it was an inventive ending and I like that more. From a writer's standpoint the big burly brawl can be a bit cliched as well since it's the tried and true conclusion of almost all superhero stories (not all but many). I'd like to think that Superman will try to redeem Prime but will ultimately fail, see the error of his ways and open up a HUGE can of whoop ass. It is the only logical conclusion. Superman isn't above using his powers to their full extent when necessary, like when he took Darkseid across the universe and slammed him into the Source Wall in Batman/Superman.
I dig Superman but I really like reading/watching him when he is at his wits end and just finally breaks down and kicks some ass. I like Kal-El but to see him have to use his head so much it gets bothersome. Its like just beat that prick up and be done with it. That is the problem on Smallville sometimes Clark spends way too much time thinking. I hope he takes down Prime too that would be a nice fight. As for not much of an intergalactic fight I agree I also like the inventive ending as well but it does feel like a waste of Batman and GL's talent. Batman could have done that with no problem but to bring in Stewart and basically have him toss the guy through a portal then walk away felt like of like a let down. But maybe that is just me.
If Superman said, "we can't stop him. He'll just keep coming back, again and again so we have to kill him," we'd all be talking about how Superman could never say that let alone do that. So for him to say he have to redeem him really isn't out of character for Superman.True, he would never say it like that, but he could imply it without saying it. Like, "We have to do whatever has to be done, and we'll do whatever it takes to do it."How could he be redeemed? Take him back to when he became evil and stop it from happening altogether. You could kill him before he helped Superman-2 stop the Anti-Montior. You could stop him from killing the Titans and Superboy, helping him to see the error of his ways.Going back in time and stopping him before he turns evil isn't redemption. It's post-prevention, and a cheap, clichd gimmick.Superman saying, "we'll do whatever it takes" is almost a Wolverine thing. Superman sees the world in stark black and white so that would mean for him going to the inevitable conclusion which is not something he would ever do.
Sure going back in time to prevent the future is a cliche but it can be done in inventive ways. Remember when Batman and John Stewart saved the world in JLU when they stuck the nerdy timetraveler in a loop where he was stuck with his shrew of a wife? That was a good use time travel to prevent an evil act.
hahah yeah it was but it was such a non-superhero ending. They didn't beat him up they just kind of popped him in a time portal. Compared to real life that is the action equivalent of making a sandwich. If they have to take down Prime I hope they do it in a more exciting way. Not to throw sand on that ending but its kind of anti-climatic.
True, there was not intergalatic style fight at the end, but it was an inventive ending and I like that more. From a writer's standpoint the big burly brawl can be a bit cliched as well since it's the tried and true conclusion of almost all superhero stories (not all but many). I'd like to think that Superman will try to redeem Prime but will ultimately fail, see the error of his ways and open up a HUGE can of whoop ass. It is the only logical conclusion. Superman isn't above using his powers to their full extent when necessary, like when he took Darkseid across the universe and slammed him into the Source Wall in Batman/Superman.
If Superman said, "we can't stop him. He'll just keep coming back, again and again so we have to kill him," we'd all be talking about how Superman could never say that let alone do that. So for him to say he have to redeem him really isn't out of character for Superman.True, he would never say it like that, but he could imply it without saying it. Like, "We have to do whatever has to be done, and we'll do whatever it takes to do it."How could he be redeemed? Take him back to when he became evil and stop it from happening altogether. You could kill him before he helped Superman-2 stop the Anti-Montior. You could stop him from killing the Titans and Superboy, helping him to see the error of his ways.Going back in time and stopping him before he turns evil isn't redemption. It's post-prevention, and a cheap, clichd gimmick.Superman saying, "we'll do whatever it takes" is almost a Wolverine thing. Superman sees the world in stark black and white so that would mean for him going to the inevitable conclusion which is not something he would ever do.
Sure going back in time to prevent the future is a cliche but it can be done in inventive ways. Remember when Batman and John Stewart saved the world in JLU when they stuck the nerdy timetraveler in a loop where he was stuck with his shrew of a wife? That was a good use time travel to prevent an evil act.
hahah yeah it was but it was such a non-superhero ending. They didn't beat him up they just kind of popped him in a time portal. Compared to real life that is the action equivalent of making a sandwich. If they have to take down Prime I hope they do it in a more exciting way. Not to throw sand on that ending but its kind of anti-climatic.
If Superman said, "we can't stop him. He'll just keep coming back, again and again so we have to kill him," we'd all be talking about how Superman could never say that let alone do that. So for him to say he have to redeem him really isn't out of character for Superman.True, he would never say it like that, but he could imply it without saying it. Like, "We have to do whatever has to be done, and we'll do whatever it takes to do it."How could he be redeemed? Take him back to when he became evil and stop it from happening altogether. You could kill him before he helped Superman-2 stop the Anti-Montior. You could stop him from killing the Titans and Superboy, helping him to see the error of his ways.Going back in time and stopping him before he turns evil isn't redemption. It's post-prevention, and a cheap, clichd gimmick.
Superman saying, "we'll do whatever it takes" is almost a Wolverine thing. Superman sees the world in stark black and white so that would mean for him going to the inevitable conclusion which is not something he would ever do.
Sure going back in time to prevent the future is a cliche but it can be done in inventive ways. Remember when Batman and John Stewart saved the world in JLU when they stuck the nerdy timetraveler in a loop where he was stuck with his shrew of a wife? That was a good use time travel to prevent an evil act.
I'm just hoping DCD will put out a Superman Prime, in the Green Lantern line (or any really).....he would go great with the rest of the SinestroCorps.
Me and my brother were just talking the other day that it would be cool if there was a regular Superboy Prime with his Anti Monitor armor and a variant Sinestro Corps version. The armor is close enough that it could be repainted or if it was removable they could just put different armor on them. I would prefer removable anyway so I could have one without armor too.
If Superman said, "we can't stop him. He'll just keep coming back, again and again so we have to kill him," we'd all be talking about how Superman could never say that let alone do that. So for him to say he have to redeem him really isn't out of character for Superman.True, he would never say it like that, but he could imply it without saying it. Like, "We have to do whatever has to be done, and we'll do whatever it takes to do it."
How could he be redeemed? Take him back to when he became evil and stop it from happening altogether. You could kill him before he helped Superman-2 stop the Anti-Montior. You could stop him from killing the Titans and Superboy, helping him to see the error of his ways.Going back in time and stopping him before he turns evil isn't redemption. It's post-prevention, and a cheap, clichd gimmick.
If Superman said, "we can't stop him. He'll just keep coming back, again and again so we have to kill him," we'd all be talking about how Superman could never say that let alone do that. So for him to say he have to redeem him really isn't out of character for Superman. He does see the innate good in people, and sometimes he sees it when it really isn't there but that's what has made the character so popular and a mainstay of American culture for over 70 years. Is it naive? Hells yeah! As written Superboy Prime is a twisted, evil version of Superman who is what we wanted Anakin Skywalker to be in the prequels. Sure he started off nice and all Superman-goodness but take away everyone he loves, even his home and he gets bent outta shape. He starts to see the world as in his way and he finds a mentor who shares his feelings, even though the mentor has his own plans. Eventually Superboy Prime turns in an act of emotion and becomes completely evil. How could he be redeemed? Take him back to when he became evil and stop it from happening altogether. You could kill him before he helped Superman-2 stop the Anti-Montior. You could stop him from killing the Titans and Superboy, helping him to see the error of his ways. But I do think it's either kill him or redeem him. There's no way to cage him.
I would love to see something like off the wall like Superman travel back in time and just kill baby Prime before he has a chance to get older.
If Superman said, "we can't stop him. He'll just keep coming back, again and again so we have to kill him," we'd all be talking about how Superman could never say that let alone do that. So for him to say he have to redeem him really isn't out of character for Superman. He does see the innate good in people, and sometimes he sees it when it really isn't there but that's what has made the character so popular and a mainstay of American culture for over 70 years. Is it naive? Hells yeah! As written Superboy Prime is a twisted, evil version of Superman who is what we wanted Anakin Skywalker to be in the prequels. Sure he started off nice and all Superman-goodness but take away everyone he loves, even his home and he gets bent outta shape. He starts to see the world as in his way and he finds a mentor who shares his feelings, even though the mentor has his own plans. Eventually Superboy Prime turns in an act of emotion and becomes completely evil. How could he be redeemed? Take him back to when he became evil and stop it from happening altogether. You could kill him before he helped Superman-2 stop the Anti-Montior. You could stop him from killing the Titans and Superboy, helping him to see the error of his ways. But I do think it's either kill him or redeem him. There's no way to cage him.
I'm just hoping DCD will put out a Superman Prime, in the Green Lantern line (or any really).....he would go great with the rest of the SinestroCorps.
