My impression is that you like things the way they used to be simply because that's what you were used to.Well... this is simplistic a dismissal of everything that I've written as you could get without saying, "Oh yeah? Well, up yours!"
Unable to refute my argument that an undiminished Superman does not necessarily result in a boring story, you decide to refute me instead by dismissing ME as "Old Skool." This is the weakest form of debate. It really is. It's like you just stopped trying.
For someone who didn't "know what the Hell to say to" me since I'm a fan of The Dark Knight Strikes Again, you sure do talk a lot.
You personally offended me with your comment about liking the "indecipherable scribbles" that were DK2. I wasn't concerned with refuting the rest of your post, and that's why I only quoted the last paragraph. The only gentlemanly thing to do was make fun of your age.
Anyway, did Frank tell you he made DK2 up as he went along? Or maybe that's what your inside info was? Or are you making things up to help your argument?
As for the artwork and someone emulating it, I'll remind you that not everyone has to draw like Jim Lee. Rob Liefeld didn't have much of a grasp on human anatomy, but he was employed for a long time (maybe he still is). I don't like Joe or Andy Kubert's art much (I love Adam Kubert's), but I don't go around saying they can't draw or they have no style. "It takes all kinds." I'm sure you've heard that phrase before. They don't say it for no reason.
ARROW have you seen the JL/Avengers crossoverThe Avaengers were in Metropolis,There was this video playing on a building (like they do in Times Square) seeing video of the JL getting awards for what they do in the DCU
I think the correct assumption by the avengers was ...they love there heroes here
No, I've not gotten my hands on that yet--I'll buy the trade though, just for the George Perez art.
Public accolades of superheroes always bugged me, always felt cheezy. Respect for the superheroes is one thing, awe is okay, but "superhero day" always seemed kind of trite to me.
Superheroes, to my mind, never do good deeds for the glory or the roar of the crowd.......they do it because its the right thing to do--though I do like it when the crowd cheers the hero on.
Yea, I'm very old school in that respect.
ARROW have you seen the JL/Avengers crossover
The Avaengers were in Metropolis,There was this video playing on a building (like they do in Times Square) seeing video of the JL getting awards for what they do in the DCU
I think the correct assumption by the avengers was ...they love there heroes here
Arrow you come a dying breed tongue.gif
Heh, the heroes are meant to save us.
I like to think that someone has to keep the heroes safe.
I think people would like Superman to be a little dark nowadaysthey see him as an overgrown boyscout
Yea, but really, what is wrong with boy scouts? LOL!
If the global emotional metaprogram skews dark and dismal, I don't think it means that all characters need become dark and dismal.
Comics when through that anti-hero phase a few times, the last in the 90's......and its not a period of comics that are looked back upon fondly.
I've always loved the bright shining arch-typical heroes, the classic capes and cowls. To me they represent a positive, noble ethic IN SPITE of the world turning doomy and gloomy. Their relevancy need shift only slightly from "things are bad, you need heroes" to "things are not-as-bad-as-they-seem, you still need heroes". Its a internal/external shift of focus, and I find I gravitate to the stories that affirm and reaffirm the heroism of the characters in different and interesting ways.
Arrow you come a dying breed
I think people would like Superman to be a little dark nowadaysthey see him as an overgrown boyscout
Yea, but really, what is wrong with boy scouts? LOL!
If the global emotional metaprogram skews dark and dismal, I don't think it means that all characters need become dark and dismal.
Comics when through that anti-hero phase a few times, the last in the 90's......and its not a period of comics that are looked back upon fondly.
I've always loved the bright shining arch-typical heroes, the classic capes and cowls. To me they represent a positive, noble ethic IN SPITE of the world turning doomy and gloomy. Their relevancy need shift only slightly from "things are bad, you need heroes" to "things are not-as-bad-as-they-seem, you still need heroes". Its a internal/external shift of focus, and I find I gravitate to the stories that affirm and reaffirm the heroism of the characters in different and interesting ways.
There was once an Elseworld where Superman was Batman
He grew up seeing his parents being killed, The Waynes......Not the Kents
I think people would like Superman to be a little dark nowadays
they see him as an overgrown boyscout
I think that Superman's greatest strength isn't his physical powers, but his innate goodness.
It particularly apparent when he teams up with Batman, and it contrasts well with Batman's darkness.
Superman is about hope, Batman ( although noble) is about revenge.
Superman didn't need to becomes earth's protector, but he's clearly seen something worth protecting. Batman had no choice but to set upon a course of vengeance against ALL criminals after his parents were killed. Batman is typified in the quote; " I don't want men to admire me, I want men to fear me".
Because Superman is about living and safeguarding the promise of the future for all, his greatest "weakness" could be his idealism. In a dark ( and growing darker) world its easy for a shining light to dim.
I think Superman's biggest weakness is a good strong kick to the nuts.
Yeah....Try it and your foot would be in so much pain
Man of Steel ring a bell?
First of all, Superman's entire super-hero career was spurred by a deathbed promise he made to his father. Now he's Superman just for the Hell of it. Secondly, once upon a time, Clark Kent provided a beautiful balance to the exciting colorful life of Superman. Superman had everything going for him, but where we, the reader, found him most accessible was in his identity as Kent. as Kent, Superman was shy, unsuccessful with women, and lonely. This isolation ...which included NOT having parents... was the price he paid for helping the world as Superman. Yeah. He could fly, fight Brainiac, and visit alien planets, but outside of the super-hero community he had very few people that he could talk to. His secret headquarters was called the Fortress of SOLITUDE remember? Now Kent has his parents, his hot wife, Lois, Lana (Don't get me started on her!) and a bunch of people that he can talk to about being Superman. Where is the sacrifice? Where is the tragedy?Blah!
Superman started in the Depression era He was written to be a shing light to those who had grim lives back in that time
Now people like it the opposite and anybody like Superman is branded the a goody two shoes
I have no clue why most people like doom and gloom all the time?
I love that Bat but there has to be a happy medium
Thank God Superman is as bad as the those idiots in High Shcool musical or dop some of you see the man of steel as that bad?
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